Apparently, We're Planning a Coup
Justin Higgins — Fri, 2007-11-30 00:07
According to Hugo Chavez and Venezuelan television, the United States Embassy in Venezuela was communicating with the CIA and planning some sort of civil coup. Civil military overthrow, actually, is the phrase. As much as I wish we were planning this type of coup, this type of pro-active restoration of Democracy, I highly doubt we are. Operation Pincer is the code name:
On November 26, 2007 the Venezuelan government broadcast and circulated a confidential memo from the US embassy to the CIA which is devastatingly revealing of US clandestine operations and which will influence the referendum this Sunday, December 2, 2007.
The memo sent by an embassy official, Michael Middleton Steere, was addressed to the Director of Central Intelligence, Michael Hayden.
The memo was entitled 'Advancing to the Last Phase of Operation Pincer' and updates the activity by a CIA unit with the acronym 'HUMINT' (Human Intelligence) which is engaged in clandestine action to destabilize the forth-coming referendum and coordinate the civil military overthrow of the elected Chavez government.
Destabilization and empowerment of the civilians inside the country willing to overthrow a dictator should be the bread-and-butter plan for ending an evil regime. I would've liked that in Iraq, and I'd prefer it in Iran. I suppose because of Bay of Pigs, most Americans have a negative connotation when it comes arming and training dissidents.
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Why do you doubt it?
looneyontheleft — Fri, 2007-11-30 14:08You should be thrilled!
This is how democracy works! Chavez is evil. The US is getting rid of Chavez (to be replaced with a more business friendly DICTATOR). You should be thrilled.
And if you don't think this is the way the CIA operates, you're even more ignorant about its past than you are regarding the proper use of 'convicted'! :)
All you have to do is look at what the Church Committee dug up in the 70s, the Iran-Contra affair in the 80s, as well as lots of the participants of some coups talking about their actions after-the-fact, such as Donald Wilber. You can also look at pro-establishment books such as 'The Very Best Men', which is a very positive and canonizing look at the four men who sort of started the CIA. This isn't a liberal screed and even there you see how the OSS, OPC and CIA got involved in the Italian elections post-WW2, Iran and Guatemala.
This memo, if a fake, at least was written by some pro-Chavez propagandists who know how the CIA and elements of the US government operate.
But if it is real...pay attention to the US embassy's own poll that close to 60% of the population is for the referendum. Sounds like democracy in action down there...
Wow~!
looneyontheleft — Fri, 2007-11-30 13:50How'd you find out the person in the memo doesn't exist?
I myself haven't found his name in connection with anything else other than this memo, so I suspect he's a cut-out or a CIA agent attached to the embassy, but I wonder how you cottoned on to it so quickly!
Right, now pull the other
Sonnabend (not verified) — Fri, 2007-11-30 03:29Right, now pull the other one, it plays "Jingle Bells" on December 25th.
Sheesh..some people have a serious conspiracy fetish.
The memo is a fake, the person in question does not exist save in the memo, there is no proof as to how and where they obtained it or how.
I'm supposed to believe something cooked up by El Presidente for Life Chavez and his merry baboons?
In a word.
BULLSHIT.