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What is Obama's officially stated position on foreign policy? Where can it be found?

What is Obama's officially stated position on energy and the environment? Where can it be found?

What is Obama's officially stated position on veterans? Where can it be found?

Run away again, little fools.

For the benefit of others that might be following this thread, I’ll venture that the demise of Obama’s campaign won’t be because of his ignorance of taxation dynamics: when confronted with the fact that lower marginal rates (especially on capital gains) actually produce more revenue, he asserted he would keep rates high anyway, just to punish the rich.

It won’t be because of his naive view of the military: “I will not weaponize space” (great, then the Chinese won’t have any competition). He will not invest in “unproven missile systems”–does he mean the ones that were unproven until they helped win Desert Storm? Not to mention his desire to retreat from Iraq without victory and thus embolden our enemies.

It won’t be because of his infantile foreign policy worldview. It is fruitless and actually harmful to “negotiate” with a dictator who publicly announces our coming demise and the annihilation of our allies. That dangerously elevates one’s opponent to a stature undeserved. Chamberlain had “success” doing it with Hitler. What will be different about this time with Ahmedinijad? You don’t negotiate with tin-pots before they acquire nukes. You prevent that from happening by maintaining a posture of military strength. How can Obama do that while cutting the military budget and reducing our troop strength worldwide? Cue “Kumbaya” please.

No, the Obama campaign will collapse because his character flaws will become glaringly apparent to everyone, thanks in large part to the Reverend whose church the Obamas attended for twenty years (and whose church many members left when Wright began preaching BLT). The so-called political “messiah” who spoke only of change and hope and sold himself as a paragon above the usual fray has been exposed as just another hack politician. His support, thanks to people like you, has now been shown to be more a cult of personality than a reasoned following.

We’re not running away from you, MeatHug, we’ve grown to mostly ignore you. You personally insult those willing to engage you in good faith, then proclaim "gotcha!" Adults don’t debate like that. You haven’t learned the first rule of civil discourse: without implicit basic respect for the opponent’s person, the deconstruction of ideas is not credible. Have fun in your mud puddle.

"You've succeeded in proving your meaningless point in your own little mind by your own little rules: Obama's competent because his opponents are not and because you say so."

Zeroid is fantasizing again. I said nothing in this thread about Obama's competence. I challenged Justin Higgins and his syncophants to answer simple questions about the substance of Obama's campaign. None of them are competent to do so. That was my point, and I thank Justin and his crew of morons for their invaluable help in providing the proof.

What is Obama's officially stated position on foreign policy? Where can it be found?

What is Obama's officially stated position on energy and the environment? Where can it be found?

What is Obama's officially stated position on veterans? Where can it be found?

Run away again, little fools.

You've succeeded in proving your meaningless point in your own little mind by your own little rules: Obama's competent because his opponents are not and because you say so. This is a campaign, not a quiz show. Watch your candidate now slipping into the abyss, not because of his ignorance of raising the Capital Gains tax but because of the emerging character flaws.

No one seems to want to argue with you anymore, Rev. Meathug. You're just not that important, and a complete waste of time.

"If I were campaigning for him, I'd be tirelessly telling everyone I know what his positions are..."

And this is something that Zeroid could not possibly claim, as it is incapable of finding or discussing those positions -- just like Justin Higgins.

"...not chiding people for not looking them up. I have looked them up and they raise innumerable objections."

False. Zeroid has no idea what Obama's positions are, nor where to find them.

"You are more concerned with tearing people down than building your candidate up."

I am concerned in this thread with demonstrating that wingnuts are incapable of discussing anything of substance. Thanks to Justin and Zeroid, I have succeeded.

I will ask again, so that Zeroid and Justin can once again demonstrate their incompetence:

What is Obama's officially stated position on foreign policy? Where can it be found?

What is Obama's officially stated position on energy and the environment? Where can it be found?

What is Obama's officially stated position on veterans? Where can it be found?

Keep it up--you're doing great things for the Obama campaign. If I were campaigning for him, I'd be tirelessly telling everyone I know what his positions are, not chiding people for not looking them up. I have looked them up and they raise innumerable objections.

You are more concerned with tearing people down than building your candidate up. No, strike that--you are solely concerned with tearing people down--especially those who might otherwise be persuaded to see your side. Your anger issues, invective, and profanity are starkly demonstrative of the rabid mannerisms that seen to possess more than a few Obama followers. Good job! It's now clear why he surrounds himself with the likes of Wright and Ayers.

"You censure Justin for not being able to "find" Obama's positions on issues, as if it were the prospective voter's job to go searching for them."

News flash for Zeroid: every voter has a duty to educate himself on the issues. It is clear that Justin Higgins not only hasn't done so, he is incapable of doing so.

"Moreover, framing his positions is problematic because his proposals are SO radical and unprepared that they don't stand up to serious interrogation..."

I'll issue the same challenge to Zeroid:

What is Obama's officially stated position on foreign policy? Where can it be found?

What is Obama's officially stated position on energy and the environment? Where can it be found?

What is Obama's officially stated position on veterans? Where can it be found?

Not only does Zeroid not know the answers to these questions, it does not know how to find the answers. Most damningly, it does not understand why it is important to discuss these questions.

Zeroid, Justin, and their kind prefer smearing someone with guilt by association. Serious discussion of serious issues is completely beyond their capabilities.

That's hilarious. You censure Justin for not being able to "find" Obama's positions on issues, as if it were the prospective voter's job to go searching for them. This demonstrates the problem: The Obama campaign should make his positions as well known as his middle name; but the fluffy rhetoric sells better, and that is politics as usual. Moreover, framing his positions is problematic because his proposals are SO radical and unprepared that they don't stand up to serious interrogation, as evidenced by Obama's annoyances ("Can't I just eat my waffle?"). Obama may be long on the what but he is seriously short on the how.

"Justin questioned Obama's policy positions because Obama never talks about them in detail."

Zeroid is lying; that is what it does. The text of a recent Obama speech on foreign policy, for instance, can be found with only a few minutes' search via Google. Other such speeches can be found just as easily, but Zeroid will never see them; it prefers its ignorance.

"Regarding Ayers, Dohrn, and Wright, it is not a case of finding Obama guilty by association."

Zeroid is lying again. That is exactly what these smear attempts are: guilt by association.

I do hope Zeroid will continue to lie. Lying is clearly its only talent.

I love how the Meathugger pretends to know everyone's inner thoughts.

Justin questioned Obama's policy positions because Obama never talks about them in detail. True, vague references can be found buried in platitudes on his website, but Obama can't talk publicly about taxes or foreign policy because he hasn't thought much about them--as revealed under specific questioning from Tim Russert and others--and his ideas would likely alienate those who are still undecided.

Regarding Ayers, Dohrn, and Wright, it is not a case of finding Obama guilty by association. I have several good friends who are lefty liberals, and though we differ in our opinions on government and society, none of them hates America, nor ever been a terrorist. Obama shows poor judgment in befriending such unrepentant America-haters. How could we trust him to choose judges and cabinet members? How could we trust him to stand up for us against our enemies? How could we know he can even discern our enemies?

Poor judgment is a character flaw and character flaws are issues in this campaign.

Where were you when Justin talked about the differences between McCain and Obama on taxes? What about the gas tax in particular...

http://www.rightontheright.com/node/3594

Wingnuts like Justin Higgins harp on Wright, Ayers, et al for one reason and one reason only: They are utterly incapable of discussing serious issues of Obama's positions on the issues. Observe...

Justin: What is Obama's officially stated position on foreign policy? Where can it be found?

What is Obama's officially stated position on energy and the environment? Where can it be found?

What is Obama's officially stated position on veterans? Where can it be found?

Not only does Justin not know the answers to these questions, he does not know how to find the answers. Most damningly, Justin Higgins does not understand why it is important to discuss these questions.

Justin and his kind prefer smearing someone with guilt by association. Serious discussion of serious issues is completely beyond Justin's capabilities.

Alan Colmes asked questions the other night that I am absolutely certain Justin Higgins hasn't the stones to acknowledge, much less answer: "Can you show me any evidence that anything Barack Obama believes is anything Bill Ayers believes? Or vice versa? Do they share any of the same policy ideas? Do they stand for any of the same things? Do you have any evidence of that?"

Oh, and I'll ask this again, because it is another question Widdle Justin is too gutless to answer: Who was David Ifshin?